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	<title>Comments on: Monks on rock opera: &#8220;We&#8217;re not gonna take it!&#8221; &#8230;What about you?</title>
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		<title>By: Some things that happened while I was gone&#8230; &#171; deathpower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some things that happened while I was gone&#8230; &#171; deathpower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on national television, but thanks to a few stuck up monks, I was unable to do so. Ridiculous. [ShambalaSun, Somongkol, Danny Fisher, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on national television, but thanks to a few stuck up monks, I was unable to do so. Ridiculous. [ShambalaSun, Somongkol, Danny Fisher, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Oh Those Cambodians&#8230; &#171; Dharma Folk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh Those Cambodians&#8230; &#171; Dharma Folk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 07:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in robes. There was some other coverage of this story at Precious Metal, Mongkol and also at Shambhala Sun, where Rod Meade Sperry in particular caught my attention with the following lines: This stands in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in robes. There was some other coverage of this story at Precious Metal, Mongkol and also at Shambhala Sun, where Rod Meade Sperry in particular caught my attention with the following lines: This stands in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rod Meade Sperry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod Meade Sperry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Arunlikhati.

I&#039;ll grant you that my post didn&#039;t cover those issues -- that&#039;s part of why commenting is great; because our community is made of with so many different people, all of whom can chime in and deepen our understanding of each issue that comes our way, just as you did. So, thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Arunlikhati.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll grant you that my post didn&#8217;t cover those issues &#8212; that&#8217;s part of why commenting is great; because our community is made of with so many different people, all of whom can chime in and deepen our understanding of each issue that comes our way, just as you did. So, thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: arunlikhati</title>
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		<dc:creator>arunlikhati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thbarnes: That&#039;s the Cambodian government&#039;s translation of ក្រសួង​ធម្មការ​និងសាសនា​. The terms ​ធម្មការ​ and សាសនា​ could both be translated into English as &quot;religion.&quot; Unfortunately there are no exact English equivalents for these Khmer words. The term ​ធម្មការ refers more to practices, while សាសនា​ refers more to the institutional sense of a religion. These terms are borrowed from Pali terms that might be more familiar: dhammakara and sasana, respectively. Personally, I think &quot;cults and religion&quot; is an apt enough translation -- although, yes, it also strikes my Anglophone sensibilities as &quot;interesting.&quot; If you have a better suggestion, I&#039;d love to hear it.

Rod: Your post glosses over two important issues. First, the hierarchy of Cambodian monks is neither homogeneous nor representative of the larger Cambodian monastic community. It was in fact the office of one particular monk with a lot of authority who wrote this letter. We should be careful not to judge Cambodian monks by the actions of this particular monk just as we shouldn&#039;t judge American Christians by the words of Jerry Falwell.

Secondly, this leadership is very tightly bound with the political elite. Now I don&#039;t know if this reaction was politically motivated -- but anyone familiar with Amrita Performing Arts (who produced the rock opera) knows that they are 100% about the preservation of Khmer culture. They have even been endorsed by the king. They presented a modern adaptation on the classic Khmer story of Tum Teav (think Romeo and Juliet, where Romeo is a monk). So what at first glance may look like a knee-jerk response to culture shock might actually have something politically deeper behind it.

(Btw, I happen to be a Westerner who sometimes gets very offended by cultural misportrayals of Buddhism. Not in this case, though.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thbarnes: That&#8217;s the Cambodian government&#8217;s translation of ក្រសួង​ធម្មការ​និងសាសនា​. The terms ​ធម្មការ​ and សាសនា​ could both be translated into English as &#8220;religion.&#8221; Unfortunately there are no exact English equivalents for these Khmer words. The term ​ធម្មការ refers more to practices, while សាសនា​ refers more to the institutional sense of a religion. These terms are borrowed from Pali terms that might be more familiar: dhammakara and sasana, respectively. Personally, I think &#8220;cults and religion&#8221; is an apt enough translation &#8212; although, yes, it also strikes my Anglophone sensibilities as &#8220;interesting.&#8221; If you have a better suggestion, I&#8217;d love to hear it.</p>
<p>Rod: Your post glosses over two important issues. First, the hierarchy of Cambodian monks is neither homogeneous nor representative of the larger Cambodian monastic community. It was in fact the office of one particular monk with a lot of authority who wrote this letter. We should be careful not to judge Cambodian monks by the actions of this particular monk just as we shouldn&#8217;t judge American Christians by the words of Jerry Falwell.</p>
<p>Secondly, this leadership is very tightly bound with the political elite. Now I don&#8217;t know if this reaction was politically motivated &#8212; but anyone familiar with Amrita Performing Arts (who produced the rock opera) knows that they are 100% about the preservation of Khmer culture. They have even been endorsed by the king. They presented a modern adaptation on the classic Khmer story of Tum Teav (think Romeo and Juliet, where Romeo is a monk). So what at first glance may look like a knee-jerk response to culture shock might actually have something politically deeper behind it.</p>
<p>(Btw, I happen to be a Westerner who sometimes gets very offended by cultural misportrayals of Buddhism. Not in this case, though.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rod Meade Sperry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod Meade Sperry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vigeland and thbarnes: very good (albeit different) points. thanks for them. it&#039;ll be interesting to see what others&#039; reactions are, too; this sort of thing just seems ripe for different thoughts, and discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vigeland and thbarnes: very good (albeit different) points. thanks for them. it&#8217;ll be interesting to see what others&#8217; reactions are, too; this sort of thing just seems ripe for different thoughts, and discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: thbarnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>thbarnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the ministry of cults and religion&quot;...interesting translation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the ministry of cults and religion&#8221;&#8230;interesting translation.</p>
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		<title>By: vigeland</title>
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		<dc:creator>vigeland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Respect for each other is a basis for peace and understanding, but imposed respect is not respect; isn&#039;t it even a form of violence?

It&#039;s a good thing that the monks share their point of view, but going further than that I feel cannot create true respect and understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Respect for each other is a basis for peace and understanding, but imposed respect is not respect; isn&#8217;t it even a form of violence?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good thing that the monks share their point of view, but going further than that I feel cannot create true respect and understanding.</p>
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